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Conditional Trades

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:03 am
by Cheapthief
The recent trade between Steelheads and Whalers had conditional terms, much like you see in some NHL trades. For example, "If you win the cup, the 4th rd pick becomes a 3rd, etc"

I think these trades are fine, but we might need to consider a cap on just how much value can be conditional. We don't want situations where its, "I'll trade you my four best players and if you win the cup I get your top two farm players."

Some type of cap on how much money, and how much value in picks can be transferred.

A total of $2? Moving up no more than one spot on the pick? Or two spots?

These conditional trades also cause a bit more work for Bob. For example, he would need to monitor someone who traded a second round pick, while that pick isn't necessarily theirs to give based on conditions. If there are conditions possibly associated with that second round pick, it cannot be moved.

Anyway, I started this thread to hear your thoughts on what you think is best for the spirit of the pool in terms of some sort of cap on conditional value.

Fire away.

Re: Conditional Trades

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:14 am
by Zach6668
As the commish of that other league, conditional trades mean exactly zero extra work for me. We kind of leave it up to the two parties to settle it on their own whenever the time comes up.

I suppose it would be easy to sticky a thread with a master list of open conditions, though. They really don't come up all that often.

That second point is why it's probably not important to really have any set rules. They really don't come up all that often. And I've yet to see any condition that is anything of any real value, in either league. Usually just a pick upgrade, or a small amount of cash.

Even then, I wouldn't really want to put a very tight limit on it, some creativity is nice to keep in the league. If you do a limit, make it just so it keeps out the extreme stuff (which, to my knowledge, has never happened), but not a limit that hinders the kind of trades that are already going on.

Re: Conditional Trades

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:50 am
by Cheapthief
Yeah, that's aligned with where I'm at. I guess the only reason to create a cap is to ensure against anything that could be really silly and extreme. There are some extreme scenarios that would seem pretty shitty.

Re: Conditional Trades

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:25 pm
by Ottawa_biatch
For sure, I'm in

Re: Conditional Trades

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:05 pm
by CanadianGothic
If any picks are included in such conditions they should be identified on the draft picks page to prevent them from being traded.

Re: Conditional Trades

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:57 pm
by Big M Bob
I have concerns with conditions being out of whack so that a team might say not trade with one team because it might help them which makes their conditions worth less but with reasonable limits that shouldn't be a problem.

I feel strongly that no actual player either on the farm or active rosters can be part of a condition.